From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 7 17:29:22 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA100779; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:29:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA100764; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:29:16 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e877PHa14031; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:25:17 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <024401c0189d$77603620$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: , Cc: , References: Subject: Re: Suggestions for NIR meeting Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:30:14 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Dear Anne. Currently I am preparing the Agenda now soon I will send draft agenda to NIR-DISCUSS mailing list. and thank you for sending me a the minutes of seoul NIR meeting. ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Anne Lord ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: ÂüÁ¶: º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 7ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 12:07 Á¦¸ñ: Suggestions for NIR meeting > > hi SeungMin, > > I just wanted to check if it is okay for you to continue as > chair of the NIR meetings. I very much hope that you are still > happy to do this. Okay, I will continue as chair of the NIR meetings. > > The next NIR meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 24 October, from > 17.30-19.00 hours (we have 1.5 hours). This is then followed by > the opening reception. > > We should announce the date and time of the meeting to the NIR > discuss soon as well as a call for agenda items - can you do this ?? > (I will find out the room for you as soon as I can). I will do it, but, please tell me the direction how to call for the agenda items? > > I have listed below a tentative agenda, to help get you started. > > DRAFT AGENDA > > 1. review of minutes from last meeting mandatory > > 2. Assessment of the "despatch a staff" internship to APNIC > in practice > > - Seungmin (KRNIC) > - Anne (APNIC) mandatory > > 3. criteria for establishment of new NIRs paper review we must discuss about this and we must make future action item or plan. > > 4. Simplifying the request process - a review > > - KRNIC report on 2nd opinion trial good. I will Also, I want to talk about NIR fee structure and number of vote of NIR. what do you think? is it too hard item to discuss within 1.5 hours? Currently we are using confederation fee structure. actually NIR is sort of confederation but, it is not the confederation. and last AMM we dicided new fee structure for members. new system is based on IP usage right? then confederation's fee per IP address must be reviewed. what do you think??? > > 5. AOB > > thoughts? > What about other NIR? Don't you have any items we must discuss? or any presentation you want to show us during the NIR meeting? if you have any discusstion Item please let me know. > Anne > _____________________________________________________________________ > Anne Lord, Manager, Member Services > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3367 0490 > http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3367 0482 > _____________________________________________________________________ > See you at the APNIC Meeting - Brisbane, Australia 25-27 October 2000 > > Sincerely yours Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 7 17:44:10 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA102675; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:44:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from guardian.apnic.net (guardian.apnic.net [203.37.255.100]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA102669 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:44:08 +1000 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by guardian.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04479; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:44:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from hadrian.staff.apnic.net(192.168.1.1) by int-gw.staff.apnic.net via smap (V2.1) id xma004477; Thu, 7 Sep 00 17:44:02 +1000 Received: from localhost (anne@localhost) by hadrian.staff.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28479; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:43:59 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:43:59 +1000 (EST) From: Anne Lord X-Sender: anne@hadrian Reply-To: sig@apnic.net To: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= cc: sig@apnic.net, nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Subject: Re: Suggestions for NIR meeting In-Reply-To: <024401c0189d$77603620$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk hi Seungmin, > Currently I am preparing the Agenda now soon I will send draft agenda > to NIR-DISCUSS mailing list. Great thanks. Please can you post the draft agenda separately to the NIR list with a suggestion for input from NIRs. I think this email will be hard for people to follow. > and thank you for sending me a the minutes of seoul NIR meeting. Will you also please send these to nir-discuss as soon as you as chair, have approved them? > Okay, I will continue as chair of the NIR meetings. thank you! > > > > We should announce the date and time of the meeting to the NIR > > discuss soon as well as a call for agenda items - can you do this ?? > > (I will find out the room for you as soon as I can). > > I will do it, but, please tell me the direction how to call for the agenda > items? I think you already did this, by copying nir-discuss on this email. > > 3. criteria for establishment of new NIRs paper review > > we must discuss about this and we must make future action item or plan. > Agreed. > > 4. Simplifying the request process - a review > > > > - KRNIC report on 2nd opinion trial > > good. I will > > Also, I want to talk about NIR fee structure and number of vote of NIR. > what do you think? is it too hard item to discuss within 1.5 hours? Yes I do to be honest. I would suggest a separate meeting - especially as the NIR meeting is about Address Policy. The fee structure and voting is a general membership issue, which must eventually be presented to the members for approval. > Currently we are using confederation fee structure. actually NIR is sort of > confederation > but, it is not the confederation. and last AMM we dicided new fee structure > for members. > new system is based on IP usage right? then confederation's fee per IP > address > must be reviewed. > what do you think??? I would suggest a separate meeting, a lunch, for those decision makers in the NIRs, together with one or two EC representatives, who are able to provide a kind of "membership" input. The NIRs can then discuss their ideas with the objective of reaching agreement that can be presented to the membership for approval. > > 5. AOB > > > > thoughts? > > > > What about other NIR? > Don't you have any items we must discuss? or any presentation you want to > show us during > the NIR meeting? if you have any discusstion Item please let me know. > > From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 15 18:54:50 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA94049; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:54:50 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA94033 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:54:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8F8oXa00662 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:50:33 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <004501c01ef2$c4613e00$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: Subject: 2nd APNIC NIR member meeting. Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:55:58 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Dear APNIC NIR members. This is Seung-Min Lee, chair of APNIC NIR Meeting. We will have "2nd APNIC NIR Memeber Meeting" on Tuesday 24th October, 5.30pm - 7.00pm in Room Paterson 2, Novotel Hotel, Brisbane, AU. As "1st APNIC NIR Member Meeting" which held in Korea, the attendees should be no more than 3 per each NIR. When each NIR decide whose gonna participate this meeting, please send the list of attendees to nir-discuss@apnic.net Following is the draft agenda for "2nd APNIC NIR Member Meeting" If anyone have other issues to discuss during the meeting. Please send proposal to nir-discuss@apnic.net. --------------- DRAFT AGENDA Chair: Seung Min Lee (KRNIC) 1. Review of minutes from the last meeting 2. Assessment of the 'despatch a staff' internship to APNIC - Seung Min Lee (KRNIC) - Anne (APNIC) 3. Criteria for establishing new NIRs - - review paper 4. Simplifying the NIR request process - KRNIC report on 2nd opinion trial 5. Address Policy issues - criteria for first allocation (APNIC) - PI assignments (APNIC) 6. AOB Sincerely yours I will look forward seeing everyone at the meeting. Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr