From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 7 17:29:22 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA100779; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:29:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA100764; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:29:16 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e877PHa14031; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:25:17 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <024401c0189d$77603620$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: , Cc: , References: Subject: Re: Suggestions for NIR meeting Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:30:14 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Dear Anne. Currently I am preparing the Agenda now soon I will send draft agenda to NIR-DISCUSS mailing list. and thank you for sending me a the minutes of seoul NIR meeting. ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Anne Lord ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: ÂüÁ¶: º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 7ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 12:07 Á¦¸ñ: Suggestions for NIR meeting > > hi SeungMin, > > I just wanted to check if it is okay for you to continue as > chair of the NIR meetings. I very much hope that you are still > happy to do this. Okay, I will continue as chair of the NIR meetings. > > The next NIR meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 24 October, from > 17.30-19.00 hours (we have 1.5 hours). This is then followed by > the opening reception. > > We should announce the date and time of the meeting to the NIR > discuss soon as well as a call for agenda items - can you do this ?? > (I will find out the room for you as soon as I can). I will do it, but, please tell me the direction how to call for the agenda items? > > I have listed below a tentative agenda, to help get you started. > > DRAFT AGENDA > > 1. review of minutes from last meeting mandatory > > 2. Assessment of the "despatch a staff" internship to APNIC > in practice > > - Seungmin (KRNIC) > - Anne (APNIC) mandatory > > 3. criteria for establishment of new NIRs paper review we must discuss about this and we must make future action item or plan. > > 4. Simplifying the request process - a review > > - KRNIC report on 2nd opinion trial good. I will Also, I want to talk about NIR fee structure and number of vote of NIR. what do you think? is it too hard item to discuss within 1.5 hours? Currently we are using confederation fee structure. actually NIR is sort of confederation but, it is not the confederation. and last AMM we dicided new fee structure for members. new system is based on IP usage right? then confederation's fee per IP address must be reviewed. what do you think??? > > 5. AOB > > thoughts? > What about other NIR? Don't you have any items we must discuss? or any presentation you want to show us during the NIR meeting? if you have any discusstion Item please let me know. > Anne > _____________________________________________________________________ > Anne Lord, Manager, Member Services > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3367 0490 > http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3367 0482 > _____________________________________________________________________ > See you at the APNIC Meeting - Brisbane, Australia 25-27 October 2000 > > Sincerely yours Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 7 17:44:10 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA102675; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:44:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from guardian.apnic.net (guardian.apnic.net [203.37.255.100]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA102669 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:44:08 +1000 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by guardian.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04479; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:44:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from hadrian.staff.apnic.net(192.168.1.1) by int-gw.staff.apnic.net via smap (V2.1) id xma004477; Thu, 7 Sep 00 17:44:02 +1000 Received: from localhost (anne@localhost) by hadrian.staff.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28479; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:43:59 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:43:59 +1000 (EST) From: Anne Lord X-Sender: anne@hadrian Reply-To: sig@apnic.net To: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= cc: sig@apnic.net, nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Subject: Re: Suggestions for NIR meeting In-Reply-To: <024401c0189d$77603620$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk hi Seungmin, > Currently I am preparing the Agenda now soon I will send draft agenda > to NIR-DISCUSS mailing list. Great thanks. Please can you post the draft agenda separately to the NIR list with a suggestion for input from NIRs. I think this email will be hard for people to follow. > and thank you for sending me a the minutes of seoul NIR meeting. Will you also please send these to nir-discuss as soon as you as chair, have approved them? > Okay, I will continue as chair of the NIR meetings. thank you! > > > > We should announce the date and time of the meeting to the NIR > > discuss soon as well as a call for agenda items - can you do this ?? > > (I will find out the room for you as soon as I can). > > I will do it, but, please tell me the direction how to call for the agenda > items? I think you already did this, by copying nir-discuss on this email. > > 3. criteria for establishment of new NIRs paper review > > we must discuss about this and we must make future action item or plan. > Agreed. > > 4. Simplifying the request process - a review > > > > - KRNIC report on 2nd opinion trial > > good. I will > > Also, I want to talk about NIR fee structure and number of vote of NIR. > what do you think? is it too hard item to discuss within 1.5 hours? Yes I do to be honest. I would suggest a separate meeting - especially as the NIR meeting is about Address Policy. The fee structure and voting is a general membership issue, which must eventually be presented to the members for approval. > Currently we are using confederation fee structure. actually NIR is sort of > confederation > but, it is not the confederation. and last AMM we dicided new fee structure > for members. > new system is based on IP usage right? then confederation's fee per IP > address > must be reviewed. > what do you think??? I would suggest a separate meeting, a lunch, for those decision makers in the NIRs, together with one or two EC representatives, who are able to provide a kind of "membership" input. The NIRs can then discuss their ideas with the objective of reaching agreement that can be presented to the membership for approval. > > 5. AOB > > > > thoughts? > > > > What about other NIR? > Don't you have any items we must discuss? or any presentation you want to > show us during > the NIR meeting? if you have any discusstion Item please let me know. > > From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 15 18:54:50 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA94049; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:54:50 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA94033 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:54:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8F8oXa00662 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:50:33 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <004501c01ef2$c4613e00$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: Subject: 2nd APNIC NIR member meeting. Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:55:58 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Dear APNIC NIR members. This is Seung-Min Lee, chair of APNIC NIR Meeting. We will have "2nd APNIC NIR Memeber Meeting" on Tuesday 24th October, 5.30pm - 7.00pm in Room Paterson 2, Novotel Hotel, Brisbane, AU. As "1st APNIC NIR Member Meeting" which held in Korea, the attendees should be no more than 3 per each NIR. When each NIR decide whose gonna participate this meeting, please send the list of attendees to nir-discuss@apnic.net Following is the draft agenda for "2nd APNIC NIR Member Meeting" If anyone have other issues to discuss during the meeting. Please send proposal to nir-discuss@apnic.net. --------------- DRAFT AGENDA Chair: Seung Min Lee (KRNIC) 1. Review of minutes from the last meeting 2. Assessment of the 'despatch a staff' internship to APNIC - Seung Min Lee (KRNIC) - Anne (APNIC) 3. Criteria for establishing new NIRs - - review paper 4. Simplifying the NIR request process - KRNIC report on 2nd opinion trial 5. Address Policy issues - criteria for first allocation (APNIC) - PI assignments (APNIC) 6. AOB Sincerely yours I will look forward seeing everyone at the meeting. Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Wed Sep 20 21:41:34 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA94380; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:41:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from oak.cnnic.net.cn (oak.cnnic.net.cn [159.226.6.131]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA94376 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:41:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from lucky ([159.226.7.76]) by oak.cnnic.net.cn (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAAED7C for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:41:11 +0800 Message-ID: <00ad01c022f7$d71332c0$4c07e29f@lucky> From: "CNNIC Hostmaster" To: Subject: The people from CNNIC will attend the NIR meeting Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:42:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C0233A.E514E100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C0233A.E514E100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear APNIC NIR members: Two people below from CNNIC will attend the NIR meeting: -------------------------------------------------------- 1. Zhang Wen Hui, CNNIC Registration Dept. Director 2. Xia Qing, CNNIC Registration Dept. Engineer CNNIC Xia Qing ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C0233A.E514E100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear APNIC NIR members:
 
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2. Xia Qing, CNNIC Registration Dept. = Engineer
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C0233A.E514E100-- From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Wed Sep 20 21:56:04 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA94831; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:56:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by whois.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA94824 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:56:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8KBoPa15387; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:50:25 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <001401c022f9$c10e12e0$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: "CNNIC Hostmaster" , References: <00ad01c022f7$d71332c0$4c07e29f@lucky> Subject: Re: The people from CNNIC will attend the NIR meeting Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:56:04 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C02345.30D42920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C02345.30D42920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank you Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: CNNIC Hostmaster ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: nir-discuss@apnic.net º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 20ÀÏ ¼ö¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 8:42 Á¦¸ñ: The people from CNNIC will attend the NIR meeting Dear APNIC NIR members: Two people below from CNNIC will attend the NIR meeting: -------------------------------------------------------- 1. Zhang Wen Hui, CNNIC Registration Dept. Director 2. Xia Qing, CNNIC Registration Dept. Engineer CNNIC Xia Qing ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C02345.30D42920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you
 
 
Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information = Center
E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr
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Personal = Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr
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Dear APNIC NIR = members:
 
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1. Zhang Wen = Hui, CNNIC=20 Registration Dept. Director
2. Xia Qing, CNNIC Registration Dept. = Engineer
 
 
CNNIC
Xia Qing
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C02345.30D42920-- From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 07:36:04 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA68801; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:36:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from guardian.apnic.net (guardian.apnic.net [203.37.255.100]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA68796 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:36:03 +1000 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by guardian.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18540; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:36:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from hadrian.staff.apnic.net(192.168.1.1) by int-gw.staff.apnic.net via smap (V2.1) id xma018538; Thu, 21 Sep 00 07:35:55 +1000 Received: from localhost (anne@localhost) by hadrian.staff.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06030; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:35:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:35:55 +1000 (EST) From: Anne Lord X-Sender: anne@hadrian To: seungmin@nic.or.kr cc: nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Subject: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, Attending the NIR meeting on Tuesday 24th 5.30pm-7pm from APNIC are: 1. George Kuo 2. Anne Lord 3. Paul Wilson Look forward to seeing you all soon, Anne _____________________________________________________________________ Anne Lord, Manager, Member Services Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3367 0490 http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3367 0482 _____________________________________________________________________ See you at the APNIC Meeting - Brisbane, Australia 25-27 October 2000 From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 11:27:09 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA76815; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:27:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from twnic.net.tw (twnic.net.tw [211.72.210.250]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA76809 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:27:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from oyang (pc043.twnic.net.tw [211.72.211.43]) by twnic.net.tw (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA03289 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:27:03 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <003901c0236b$4811c1d0$2bd348d3@twnic.net.tw> From: "oyang" To: Subject: TWNIC attendees at NIR meeting Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:28:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C023AE.55F97F70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C023AE.55F97F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, Attending the NIR meeting from TWNIC are:=20 1. Wen Sung, Chen ( Executive Director ) 2. Shih Chiung, Ouyang ( Senior Administrator ) 3. Trancy Tsai ( Administrator ) Best regards, Shih Chiung TWNIC ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C023AE.55F97F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi SeungMin, and NIR-members,

Attending the = NIR meeting=20 from TWNIC are:
1. Wen Sung, Chen  ( Executive Director = )
2. Shih Chiung, Ouyang ( Senior Administrator = )
3. Trancy Tsai ( Administrator )
 
Best regards,
 
Shih Chiung
TWNIC

------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C023AE.55F97F70-- From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 11:45:34 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA77356; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:45:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA77246 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:42:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8L1aMa23434; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:36:22 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <015c01c0236d$24d944c0$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: "Anne Lord" Cc: References: Subject: Re: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:42:03 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Thank you for notice it to me See you at the meeting. Sincerely yours Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Anne Lord ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: ÂüÁ¶: º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 21ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÀü 6:35 Á¦¸ñ: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > > hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, > > Attending the NIR meeting on Tuesday 24th 5.30pm-7pm from APNIC are: > > 1. George Kuo > 2. Anne Lord > 3. Paul Wilson > > Look forward to seeing you all soon, > > Anne > _____________________________________________________________________ > Anne Lord, Manager, Member Services > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3367 0490 > http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3367 0482 > _____________________________________________________________________ > See you at the APNIC Meeting - Brisbane, Australia 25-27 October 2000 > > > From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 11:53:14 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA77655; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:53:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA77468 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:47:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8L1Zsa23424; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:35:54 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <015601c0236d$1482d5a0$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: "oyang" , References: <003901c0236b$4811c1d0$2bd348d3@twnic.net.tw> Subject: Re: TWNIC attendees at NIR meeting Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:41:36 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0152_01C023B8.843FC420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C023B8.843FC420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thank you for notice it to me See you at NIR meeting. Sincerely yours Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: oyang ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: nir-discuss@apnic.net º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 21ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÀü 10:28 Á¦¸ñ: TWNIC attendees at NIR meeting Hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, Attending the NIR meeting from TWNIC are: 1. Wen Sung, Chen ( Executive Director ) 2. Shih Chiung, Ouyang ( Senior Administrator ) 3. Trancy Tsai ( Administrator ) Best regards, Shih Chiung TWNIC ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C023B8.843FC420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thank you for notice it to me
See you at NIR meeting.
 
Sincerely yours
 
Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information = Center
E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr
Company = Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr
Personal = Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr
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=C1=A6=B8=F1: TWNIC = attendees at NIR meeting

Hi SeungMin, and NIR-members,

Attending the = NIR=20 meeting from TWNIC are:
1. Wen Sung, Chen  ( Executive Director = )
2. Shih Chiung, Ouyang ( Senior Administrator = )
3. Trancy Tsai ( Administrator )
 
Best regards,
 
Shih Chiung
TWNIC

------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C023B8.843FC420-- From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 13:07:20 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA68168; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:07:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA68136 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:06:50 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8L2vua26489; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:57:56 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <01b501c02378$8dadd000$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: , , , Cc: References: Subject: Re: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:03:37 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk I didn't receive any reply mail from JPNIC and APJII. If someone received this mail then please let me know whose gonna attend the meeting . Thank you. Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Anne Lord ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: ÂüÁ¶: º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 21ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÀü 6:35 Á¦¸ñ: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > > hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, > > Attending the NIR meeting on Tuesday 24th 5.30pm-7pm from APNIC are: > > 1. George Kuo > 2. Anne Lord > 3. Paul Wilson > > Look forward to seeing you all soon, > > Anne > _____________________________________________________________________ > Anne Lord, Manager, Member Services > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3367 0490 > http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3367 0482 > _____________________________________________________________________ > See you at the APNIC Meeting - Brisbane, Australia 25-27 October 2000 > > > From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 18:10:07 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA81573; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:10:07 +1000 (EST) Received: from smtp3.cbn.net.id (smtp3.cbn.net.id [202.158.2.53]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA81567 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:10:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from hostmaster (unknown [202.158.30.160]) by smtp3.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with SMTP id 21341537F7 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:12:36 +0700 (JAVT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000921144903.008625b0@202.159.35.254> X-Sender: irvan@202.159.35.254 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:49:03 +0700 To: From: Irvan Nasrun Subject: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, Attending the NIR meeting from APJII are: 1.Sanjaya (General of Secretary), APJII 2.Irvan Nasrun (Network Engineer, Hostmaster), APJII Best regards, Irvan Nasrun APJII From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 18:36:25 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA82932; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:36:24 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA82923 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:36:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8L8Vta07724; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:31:55 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <006301c023a7$33815b40$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: , "Irvan Nasrun" References: <3.0.6.32.20000921144903.008625b0@202.159.35.254> Subject: Re: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:37:39 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Thank you for notice it to me See you at the meeting. Sincerely yours Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Irvan Nasrun ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 21ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 4:49 Á¦¸ñ: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > Hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, > > Attending the NIR meeting from APJII are: > > 1.Sanjaya (General of Secretary), APJII > 2.Irvan Nasrun (Network Engineer, Hostmaster), APJII > > Best regards, > > Irvan Nasrun > APJII From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Thu Sep 21 22:15:38 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA92025; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:15:37 +1000 (EST) Received: from link.net.id ([202.137.3.99]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA92019 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:15:31 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 56144 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2000 02:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sanjaya) ([202.77.113.3]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.link.net.id (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Sep 2000 02:31:04 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Sanjaya" To: Cc: , Subject: APJII attendees at NIR meeting Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:12:43 +0700 Message-ID: <000c01c02374$cabdf8c0$2064020a@sanjaya> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Hi everybody, >From APJII, Sanjaya (Secretary General) Irvan Nasrun (Hostmaster) will attend this meeting. See you ! Sanjaya From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 22 01:24:32 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA99576; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 01:24:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from link.net.id ([202.137.3.99]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA99571 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 01:24:28 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 67998 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2000 03:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hostmaster) ([202.77.125.19]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.link.net.id (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Sep 2000 03:35:03 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000921103445.00852720@202.159.35.254> X-Sender: irvan@202.159.35.254 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:34:45 +0700 To: From: Irvan Nasrun Subject: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting Cc: seungmin@nic.or.kr, sanjaya@indo.net.id Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, Attending the NIR meeting from APJII are: 1.Sanjaya (General of Secretary), APJII 2.Irvan Nasrun (Network Engineer, Hostmaster), APJII Best regards, Irvan Nasrun APJII From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 22 15:42:45 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA76550; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:42:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA76538 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:42:41 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8M5cGa29481 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:38:16 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <009501c02458$1d6d53c0$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: Subject: List of Attendees and The minutes of Last NIR Meeting Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:44:03 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Dear APNIC NIR Members I enclosed the minutes of last APNIC NIR meeting. Please review it. And, following is the list of attendees for 2nd NIR Meeting. Total is 12 persons upto now. ------------------------------------ The list of Attendees for 2nd NIR Meeting ------------------------------------ APIJJ Sanjaya (General of Secretary) Irvan Nasrun (Network Engineer, Hostmaster) APNIC George Kuo Anne Lord(Manager) Paul Wilson(Director General) CNNIC Zhang Wen Hui, (Registration Dept. Director) Xia Qing, (Registration Dept. Engineer) JPNIC I didn't get any response from JPNIC. KRNIC Weon Kim (Executive Director) Seung-Min Lee (Manager) TWNIC Wen Sung, Chen (Executive Director) Shih Chiung, Ouyang (Senior Administrator) Trancy Tsai (Administrator) -------------------------------- The Minute of 1st APNIC NIR Meeting -------------------------------- 1st National Internet Registry (NIR) Meeeting Wednesday 1 March 2000, Juniper Tree Room Sheraton Walker Hill Seoul, Korea Chair: Seung Min Lee, KRNIC Attendence: APJII Irvan Nasrun APNIC Paul Wilson Anne Lord Gerard Ross (minutes) CNNIC Mao Wei Zhang Wenhui Xia Qing Qian Hualin JPNIC Akinori Maemura Masayoshi Toya Yoshiko O Chong Naomasa Marayama (observer) KRNIC Weon Kim Jin-Hee Kum In-Su Im TWNIC Shih-Chiung Oyang ????? (checking with shih chiung) It was mentioned by the Chair that the scope of this meeting should be limited to hostmaster-related and IP address issues only. Specifically this meeting is not about finance or voting related issues. 1. AGENDA BASHING No change to agenda which was previously circulated. 2. LIAISON AND COMMUNICATION Seung-Min Lee presented proposal from KRNIC "Dispatch Staff to APNIC" Proposal is important to KRNIC to ensure continuity if senior staff were to leave. APNIC has agreed in principle to the proposal. It was commented by APNIC that this first visit by KRNIC would be a trial to help get details right. It is APNICs intention to support more visits, although the number of visits APNIC can support will have to be determined on basis of first trial. It was also commented that any visitor would need to sign a non-disclosure agreement, similar to the one all APNIC staff sign. TWNIC agreed this is a good idea for long term development and suggested the length of stay would need to be thought about carefully. APNIC commented that the length of stay might depend upon experience of person who visits. Three months seems good time because of need to settle in. CNNIC agreed that the proposal is a good idea in helping to establish good policies and procedures. Concern was also expressed about any increases in workload to APNIC. APNIC suggested that the overhead would be high if the visit was too short. Longer visits would be more worthwhile, but could be determined on a case by case basis. APNIC also commented that because of APNIC commitments to training & other visits, the this would have to be scheduled well in advance. NIRs could invite APNIC to present training during NIR member meetings. Member training is NIR responsibility, but APNIC is happy to help with resources & materials. 3. PROCEDURES 3.1 IPv4 Anne Lord presented proposal "Current NIR Address Request Process - Overview and Proposal" APNIC commented that the software to select next contiguous block is not too far in the future, but this proposal raises the possibility of using a shared pool of addresses and having NIRs manually request from that pool. CNNIC commented that they totally agree with proposal. JPNIC commented that it would be a good idea to implement Allocation Window but it could raise a problem in terms of translating a large amount of member information. KRNIC commented that this would depend on how large the Allocation window would be. APNIC commented that for experienced NIRs it would probably be at least /16, but this would have to be worked out with individual NIRs. There was some concern over the extra workload that this would create,but APNIC commented that using the APNIC-075 already creates significant work so this proposal is about spreading that work out. The main tradeoff is the translation. CNNIC commented that there is not much translation work for hostmaster in translating for allocation window only requests. JPNIC commented that they need time to discuss this further especially re translation and asked for a target date for new policy. APNIC responded in saying that the target date requires agreement but preferably no more than one year. KRNIC suggested that a timeline of one month be set to commence work on this. If any objections, send to NIR-DISCUSS mailing list. 3.2. IPv6 Anne Lord presented proposal "IPv6 Allocation" APNIC commented that the current policy framework for IPv6 allocation is fluid due to lack of experience. So, currently there is global sharing of requests to evaluate technical details. We suggest that NIRs can make allocations but they should go through APNIC for experience building. Masayoshi Toya presented JPNIC's IPv6 request process where JPNIC acts as an agent in collecting information from their requestors and forwarding the requests to APNIC for evaluation. They are observers in the process. KRNIC asked if JPNIC's role in the process was just to lend their name. APNIC explained that JPNIC process is still experimental, but we anticipate that JPNIC's role will grow. JPNIC clarified further that JPNIC acts as a service agent. They provide Japanese version of form and documents, so member still gets a service from JPNIC. Plan is for JPNIC to get more actively involved in discussing addressing plans etc. TWNIC commented that they don't yet know when they can start with IPv6 services. CNNIC commented that they are just starting IPv6 services. KRNIC agreed that this procedure is basically a good idea. It's OK for bootstrap period but needs more thought for future. 3.3. What is an NIR? Paul Wilson presented proposal "Criteria for the Establishment of New National Internet Registries." APNIC commented that they don't want to continue suspending confederation memberships. The policy has changed by classifying as NIRs separate from ISP confederations. We no longer use the term 'confederation' in association with an NIR. In making rules for new confederations, NIRs should ensure that they an also met the criteria. Important to note that because only APNIC has confederations, it gets scrutiny from other RIRs and ASO. It is possible that confederation structure will be reopened, so very important that all NIRs develop these policies. KRNIC asked if an NIR member could also be a member of APNIC. APNIC commented that this is possible as APNIC has an open membership policy. However receiving two allocations should not be possible. JPNIC asked if it was necessary to insist that NIRs should have a membership base. APNIC commented that it is not for APNIC to tell NIRs how to structure their organisations. Most important concern is for openness and transparency to be demonstrated. KRNIC asked if government agencies can be NIRs? APNIC commented that there have been some already. The issue of the relationship to government should be discussed further however and is a difficult one. 4. AOB (Chair): Presentations to be collected and posted to web, pending resolution of any confidentiality concerns. 19:45 Meeting closed Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 22 15:46:16 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA76793; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:46:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from guardian.apnic.net (guardian.apnic.net [203.37.255.100]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA76788 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:46:14 +1000 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by guardian.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01105 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:46:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from hadrian.staff.apnic.net(192.168.1.1) by int-gw.staff.apnic.net via smap (V2.1) id xma001094; Fri, 22 Sep 00 15:45:58 +1000 Received: from localhost (anne@localhost) by hadrian.staff.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02376 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:45:58 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:45:58 +1000 (EST) From: Anne Lord X-Sender: anne@hadrian To: nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Subject: BOUNCE nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net: Non-member submission from ["Izumi@Okutani" ] (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by ns.apnic.net id PAA76789 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk seungmin, this was sent yesterday from JPNIC - so i think we are complete now. thanks, Anne ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Izumi@Okutani" To: , , , Cc: Subject: RE: [JPNIC ip-wg 8337] Re: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:04:41 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <01b501c02378$8dadd000$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal hi SeungMin, Sorry for the late response. Attendees from JPNIC are: Akinori Maemura Ruri Hiromi Izumi Okutani Best Regards, ---------------------------------------- Izumi Okutani IP Address Team Japan Network Information Center TEL:+81-3-5297-2311 FAX:+81-3-5297-2314 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ip-wg@nic.ad.jp [mailto:owner-ip-wg@nic.ad.jp]On Behalf Of À̽¹Π> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:04 PM > To: motoi@nic.ad.jp; mem@nic.ad.jp; irvan@apjii.or.id; anne@apnic.net > Cc: nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net > Subject: [JPNIC ip-wg 8337] Re: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > > > I didn't receive any reply mail from JPNIC and APJII. > If someone received this mail then please let me know whose gonna attend > the meeting . > > Thank you. > > > Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center > E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr > Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr > Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr > ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- > º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Anne Lord > ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: > ÂüÁ¶: > º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 21ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÀü 6:35 > Á¦¸ñ: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > > > > > > hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, > > > > Attending the NIR meeting on Tuesday 24th 5.30pm-7pm from APNIC are: > > > > 1. George Kuo > > 2. Anne Lord > > 3. Paul Wilson > > > > Look forward to seeing you all soon, > > > > Anne > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Anne Lord, Manager, Member Services > > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3367 0490 > > http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3367 0482 > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > See you at the APNIC Meeting - Brisbane, Australia 25-27 October 2000 > > > > > > > > From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 22 15:52:23 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA77050; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:52:23 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA77043 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:52:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8M5loa29833; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:47:50 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <00cb01c02459$73abc4a0$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: "Anne Lord" , References: Subject: Re: BOUNCE nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net: Non-member submission from["Izumi@Okutani" ] (fwd) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:53:37 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Okay good.. hmm. why I didn't received that mail?? Curious. Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Anne Lord ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 22ÀÏ ±Ý¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 2:45 Á¦¸ñ: BOUNCE nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net: Non-member submission from["Izumi@Okutani" ] (fwd) > > seungmin, > > this was sent yesterday from JPNIC - so i think we are complete > now. > > thanks, > > Anne > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Izumi@Okutani" > To: , , , > > Cc: > Subject: RE: [JPNIC ip-wg 8337] Re: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:04:41 +0900 > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="ks_c_5601-1987" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > In-Reply-To: <01b501c02378$8dadd000$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > Importance: Normal > > hi SeungMin, > > Sorry for the late response. > > Attendees from JPNIC are: > > Akinori Maemura > Ruri Hiromi > Izumi Okutani > > Best Regards, > > ---------------------------------------- > Izumi Okutani > IP Address Team > Japan Network Information Center > TEL:+81-3-5297-2311 > FAX:+81-3-5297-2314 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ip-wg@nic.ad.jp [mailto:owner-ip-wg@nic.ad.jp]On Behalf Of > À̽¹Π> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:04 PM > > To: motoi@nic.ad.jp; mem@nic.ad.jp; irvan@apjii.or.id; anne@apnic.net > > Cc: nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net > > Subject: [JPNIC ip-wg 8337] Re: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > > > > > > I didn't receive any reply mail from JPNIC and APJII. > > If someone received this mail then please let me know whose gonna attend > > the meeting . > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center > > E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr > > Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr > > Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr > > ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- > > º¸³½ »ç¶÷: Anne Lord > > ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: > > ÂüÁ¶: > > º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 21ÀÏ ¸ñ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÀü 6:35 > > Á¦¸ñ: APNIC attendees at NIR meeting > > > > > > > > > > hi SeungMin, and NIR-members, > > > > > > Attending the NIR meeting on Tuesday 24th 5.30pm-7pm from APNIC are: > > > > > > 1. George Kuo > > > 2. Anne Lord > > > 3. Paul Wilson > > > > > > Look forward to seeing you all soon, > > > > > > Anne > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > Anne Lord, Manager, Member Services > > > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3367 0490 > > > http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3367 0482 > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > See you at the APNIC Meeting - Brisbane, Australia 25-27 October 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 22 15:54:49 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA77178; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:54:49 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA77174 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:54:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8M5oKa29924 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:50:20 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <00d801c02459$cd24bc80$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: Subject: The Final list of Attendees for 2nd NIR Meeting Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:56:07 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk ----------------------------------------- The Final list of Attendees for 2nd NIR Meeting ----------------------------------------- Total : 15 persons APIJJ Sanjaya (General of Secretary) Irvan Nasrun (Network Engineer, Hostmaster) APNIC George Kuo Anne Lord(Manager) Paul Wilson(Director General) CNNIC Zhang Wen Hui, (Registration Dept. Director) Xia Qing, (Registration Dept. Engineer) JPNIC Akinori Maemura Ruri Hiromi Izumi Okutani KRNIC Weon Kim (Executive Director) Seung-Min Lee (Manager) TWNIC Wen Sung, Chen (Executive Director) Shih Chiung, Ouyang (Senior Administrator) Trancy Tsai (Administrator) Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Fri Sep 22 16:10:09 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA78001; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:10:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA77997 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:10:05 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8M65ba00463; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:05:37 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <00ea01c0245b$eff7eb40$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= , Subject: Re: The Final list of Attendees for 2nd NIR Meeting Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:11:24 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Ooops Sorry.. APIJJ is the typo. APJII is the correct organization name. Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: À̽¹Π¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 22ÀÏ ±Ý¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 2:56 Á¦¸ñ: The Final list of Attendees for 2nd NIR Meeting > ----------------------------------------- > The Final list of Attendees for 2nd NIR Meeting > ----------------------------------------- > > Total : 15 persons > > APIJJ > Sanjaya (General of Secretary) > Irvan Nasrun (Network Engineer, Hostmaster) > > APNIC > George Kuo > Anne Lord(Manager) > Paul Wilson(Director General) > > CNNIC > Zhang Wen Hui, (Registration Dept. Director) > Xia Qing, (Registration Dept. Engineer) > > JPNIC > Akinori Maemura > Ruri Hiromi > Izumi Okutani > > KRNIC > Weon Kim (Executive Director) > Seung-Min Lee (Manager) > > TWNIC > Wen Sung, Chen (Executive Director) > Shih Chiung, Ouyang (Senior Administrator) > Trancy Tsai (Administrator) > > Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center > E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr > Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr > Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr > From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Sat Sep 23 12:19:20 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA107552; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:19:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA107545; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:19:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8N2EWg16616; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:14:32 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <008501c02504$d36ff2c0$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: Cc: "Anne Lord" References: Subject: Re: nir and special meeting Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:20:22 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Dear APNIC NIR Member. This is Seung-Min Lee at KRNIC. I am announcing the Special NIR Member Meeting as a chair of NIR Meeting. The purpose of the Special NIR Member Meeting is reviewing the fee structure and number of vote for APNIC NIR members. We can not discuss this subject at the 2nd APNIC NIR Meeting because of the 2nd APNIC NIR Meeting is only for the subject related to IP address and hostmaster-related issues only. Therefore, I propose the special NIR member meeting to discuss about the APNIC fee structure and the number of votes for NIRs. The draft Agenda is : 1. Presentation for the status, problems and proposal for the APNIC fee structure and The number of votes for APNIC NIR Members. - Seung-Min Lee/KRNIC 2. Brainstorming and discussion. 3. Future Action Plan - Suggested attendance of one or two EC members as representatives of general membership. Actually, I already reserved meeting time and venue as following. Date: Wednesday 25th October, 2000 Time: 8.00am - 9.00am Venue: Paterson 2, Novotel Hotel I want to get feedback from other NIRs about this special NIR meeting. and if someone want to present or any suggestion for this meeting, please tell me without any hesitation. Thank you Sincerely yours Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Sat Sep 23 14:40:00 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA109950; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:39:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA109946; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:39:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8N4Yqg20880; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:34:52 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <000b01c02518$6df6af60$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: Cc: , References: <200009230428.NAA06678@pc92.nic.ad.jp> Subject: Re: nir and special meeting Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:40:41 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Dear Maruyama I don't think the schedule crash with other BOF. The time is very early in the morning start from 8:00 am to 9:00 am. isn't it? Maruyama San. Please attend this meeting and give good advise for us. See you at Brisbane. Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: ÂüÁ¶: ; º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 23ÀÏ Åä¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 1:28 Á¦¸ñ: Re: nir and special meeting > Hi Seungmin, > > >From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= > >Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:20:22 +0900 > > >Therefore, I propose the special NIR member meeting to discuss about the > >APNIC fee structure and the number of votes for NIRs. > > Interesting. > > >Actually, I already reserved meeting time and venue as following. > > > >Date: Wednesday 25th October, 2000 > >Time: 8.00am - 9.00am > >Venue: Paterson 2, Novotel Hotel > > Uuum, this will clash with the Membership Agreement BOF(19:00-20:30), > which I feel I have to contribute to the discussion. Is it possible > to change the start time to 20:30 ? > > ---- > NaoMASA Maruyama (Vice President of JPNIC) > maruyama@nic.ad.jp From owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Mon Sep 25 14:06:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA96399; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:06:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.nic.or.kr (mail.nic.or.kr [202.30.50.115]) by ns.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96393; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:06:17 +1000 (EST) Received: from nystyle ([203.255.208.131]) by mail.nic.or.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8P41Qg08552; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:01:28 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <008601c026a6$1dc5c1e0$83d0ffcb@nic.or.kr> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMy9wrnO?= To: Cc: "Anne Lord" , , References: <4.2.0.58.J.20000924141517.00d34c00@mail.fastnet.ne.jp> Subject: Re: [JPNIC ip-wg 8349] Re: nir and special meeting Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:07:24 +0900 Organization: KRNIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Ogino San. Good to hear from you again. How have you been? does everything is fine? I am very sorry to hear you cannot attend this meeting. but, please arrange some one else from JPNIC to attend this meeting. for us, all NIRs, JPNIC's vaulable opinion is very important. Then, See you at brisbane. Seung-Min Lee / Manager at Korea Network Information Center E-mail : seungmin@nic.or.kr Company Homepage : http://www.nic.or.kr Personal Homepage : http://www.nystyle.pe.kr ----- ¿øº» ¸Þ½ÃÁö ----- º¸³½ »ç¶÷: to ¹Þ´Â »ç¶÷: ÂüÁ¶: Anne Lord ; º¸³½ ³¯Â¥: 2000³â 9¿ù 24ÀÏ ÀÏ¿äÀÏ ¿ÀÈÄ 2:51 Á¦¸ñ: Re: [JPNIC ip-wg 8349] Re: nir and special meeting > Hi! Seung-Min > How are you? > > >The purpose of the Special NIR Member Meeting is reviewing the fee structure > >and number of vote for APNIC NIR members. > > Ok! > > >We can not discuss this subject at the 2nd APNIC NIR Meeting because of the > >2nd APNIC NIR Meeting is only for the subject related to IP address and > >hostmaster-related issues only. > > I think so. > They are important issues for us. > But you know,they are not hostmaster's mission of JPNIC. So we have to > discuss some department of JPNIC. > And also we will make the person who can be adapted to these issues attend it. > > Best regards > > PS > Sorry!I can not attend this meeting. > I will arrive at Brisben at afternoon on 25th. > So if you can change this schedule,I may be able to attend it. > ---------------------------------------- > Ogino,Tsukasa > Trustee(IP address) of Japan Network Information Center > ogino@nic.ad.jp > http://www.nic.ad.jp > ---------------------------------------- > > >Therefore, I propose the special NIR member meeting to discuss about the > >APNIC fee structure and the number of votes for NIRs. > >The draft Agenda is : > > > >1. Presentation for the status, problems and proposal for the APNIC fee > >structure and The number of votes for APNIC NIR Members. > > - Seung-Min Lee/KRNIC > > > >2. Brainstorming and discussion. > > > >3. Future Action Plan > > > >- Suggested attendance of one or two EC members as representatives of > >general membership. > > > > > >Actually, I already reserved meeting time and venue as following. > > > >Date: Wednesday 25th October, 2000 > >Time: 8.00am - 9.00am > >Venue: Paterson 2, Novotel Hotel > > > > > >I want to get feedback from other NIRs about this special NIR meeting. > > > >and if someone want to present or any suggestion for this meeting, please > >tell me without any hesitation. > >