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APNIC Annual General Meeting
January 31, 1997
Hong Kong
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9:00 - 9:30 Meeting called to order
69 individuals from 31 member organizations (and non-member
organizations) representing 84 votes present. Quorum
established. No additional agenda items requested.
9:30 - 10:30 Executive Council Elections
Due to lack of biography and position statement, Indra
K. Hartono was asked to give a bit of information about
himself.
Voting for the executive council seats was then initiated.
Two Executive Council seats were open. Nominees were:
Daniel Ng
Dr. Kwan Ho Song
Dr. Xing Li
He Wengao
Hock-Koon Lim
Indra K. Hartono
Prof. Dr. Srisakdi Charmonman
Yongping Dou
Results of first vote:
Dr. Xing Li 20 *
Prof. Dr. Srisakdi Charmonman 18
Hock-Koon Lim 17
Dr. Kwan Ho Song 14
Inrda K. Hartono 3
Mr. He Wengao -
Mr. Yongping Dou -
Daniel Ng -
Results of second vote:
Dr. Kwan Ho Song 28 +
Prof. Dr. Srisakdi Charmonman 28 +
Hock-Koon Lim 19
Mr. He Wengao 2
Inrda K. Hartono -
Mr. Yongping Dou -
Daniel Ng -
Results of runoff vote:
Prof. Dr. Srisakdi Charmonman 41 *
Dr. Kwan Ho Song 36
(note: balance of votes were abstentions).
APNIC membership welcomed the new Executive Council members,
Dr. Xing Li and Prof Dr. Srisakdi Charmonman and thanked outgoing
Interim Executive Council members Sanjaya and B. A. C. Abeywardana
10:30 - 10:40 APNIC Allocation Activities
In 1996, growth in address allocations was rather cyclic with
spikes consistently occuring every other month. The APNIC
hostmaster received approximately 100 requests, 50 non-request
related questions, and over 250 pieces of other email per
month. By the end of 1996, APNIC's membership consisted of 108
organizations.
The following statistics were presented:
IP allocation (/24 blocks)
Apr-94 1280
May-94 564240
Jun-94 17408
Jul-94 17920
Aug-94 51200
Sep-94 54784
Oct-94 813312
Nov-94 72448
Dec-94 313600
Jan-95 27392
Feb-95 372224
Mar-95 337152
Apr-95 60672
May-95 455168
Jun-95 300032
Jul-95 49920
Aug-95 530688
Sep-95 291072
Oct-95 642560
Nov-95 108800
Dec-95 816640
Jan-96 92160
Feb-96 910080
Mar-96 149248
Apr-96 992000
May-96 947968
Jun-96 376160
Jul-96 870656
Aug-96 35584
Sep-96 585744
Oct-96 1018368
Nov-96 628096
Dec-96 1205504
APNIC Members
Up to May 96 32
Jun. 96 2
Jul. 96 13
Aug. 96 12
Sept. 96 14
Oct. 96 13
Nov. 96 10
Dec. 96 9
APNIC Member (country distributions)
AP 4
AU 12
BD 2
CN 13
FJ 1
GU 1
HK 26
ID 17
IN 1
JP 3
KR 5
LK 2
MM 1
MN 1
MO 1
MV 1
MY 4
NP 1
NZ 3
PG 1
PH 10
SG 4
TH 12
TW 3
APNIC Members (size distribution)
Small 73
Medium 29
Large 19
(Enterprise 8)
(Confederation 5)
AS number Allocation by date
9412 1
9503 1
9504 1
9505 2
9506 4
9507 4
9508 70
9509 10
9510 13
9511 4
9512 14
9601 11
9602 15
9603 9
9604 4
9605 4
9606 3
9607 9
9608 8
9609 5
9610 12
9611 5
9612 11
AS number allocation by countries
AP 9
AU 27
BN 1
CN 10(36)*
FJ 1
HK 49
ID 6
IN 2
JP 64
KR 21
MO 1
MY 1
NP 1
NZ 6
PH 4
PK 1
SG 7
TH 13
TW 15
(*) Number in parenthesis is reserved AS numbers for
particular members
[note some numbers may not total due to the inclusion of later
(FY'97) data]
10:40 - 10:50 APNIC Budget Status
The current profit and loss statement of APNIC was presented
[NOTE: the following is updated from the version presented at
the APNIC meeting to reflect the closing of APNIC's books]
Asia Pacific Network Information Center Profit and Loss
April 30 through December 31, 1996
Ordinary Income/Expense
Income
Membership Services 308,000.00
Start-up Fees 69,000.00
Total Income 377,000.00
Expense
APRICOT Underwrite 16,408.03
Bank Service Charges 2,145.53
Books/Periodicals 67.49
Communication Hardware 4,713.02
Computer Expenses
Hardware 3,005.70
Software 1,926.38
Total Computer Expense 4,932.08
Depreciation Expense 1,817.83
Domain Name Registration 2,803.23
Entertainment 252.70
Licenses and Permits 159.14
Meeting Expense 2,010.22
Moving Expense 2,642.38
Office Furniture 2,148.25
Office Supplies 1,726.47
Payroll Expenses 1,090.62
Phone/Fax 4,004.92
Postage and Delivery 1,475.37
Printing and Reproduction 974.93
Professional Development 2,080.83
Professional Fees
Accounting/Management 3,072.57
Contracting 6,000.00
Legal Fees 16,055.49
Total Professional Fees 25,128.06
Rent
Furniture Rent 589.13
Total Rent 589.13
Repairs/Warranties
Computer Repairs 104.37
Total Repairs 104.37
Salaries 46,399.82
Transportation 1,674.63
Travel 44,163.50
Wages 23,060.39
Total Expense 192,572.94
Net Ordinary Income 184,427.06
Other Income/Expense
Other Income
Donations 97,255.15
Interest Income 2,403.82
Total Other Income 99,658.97
Net Other Income 99,658.97
Total Other Income/Expense 99,658.97
Net Income 284,086.03
All the the specific categories of the APNIC P&L were described:
* Bank Service Charges -- fees APNIC are assessed by our bank
for currency exchanges, etc.
* Books/Periodicals -- costs of books and periodicals used by
APNIC
* Commuication Hardware -- network cabling, phone equipment,
modems, etc.
* Computer Expenses (Hardware) -- computer systems, hard
disks, monitors, etc.
* Computer Expenses (Software) -- Operating system licenses,
utility software
* Depreciation Expenses -- asset depreciation (any capital
equipment over JPY 200,000)
* Entertainment -- primarily thank you gifts to donors, etc.
* Licenses and Permits -- primarily work visas
* APRICOT Underwrite -- payments underwriting APRICOT
including Hotel block reservation prepayment, expo
management fees, etc.
* Meeting expenses -- refreshments, meeting materials, etc.
* Office Furniture -- desks, chairs, cabinets, etc.
* Office Supplies -- paper, pens, pencils, etc.
* Payroll Expenses -- APNIC payroll obligations
* Phone/Fax -- telephone and fax expenses
* Postage and Delivery -- APNIC mailings
* Printing and Reproduction -- letterhead, business cards,
copy services, etc.
* Professional Development -- staff training, tutorials, etc.
* Professional Fees (Accounting/Management) -- account
auditing and consulting
* Professional Fees (Contracting) -- outsourced system
administration and security support
* Professional Fees (Legal) -- APNIC incorporation, tax
issues, contracts and agreements drafting, etc.
* Rent (Furniture rent) -- rental fees for temporary furniture
* Repairs/Warranties (Computer Repairs) -- repairs for a
broken computer system
* Salaries -- total salary paid to APNIC full-time employees
* Transportation -- business related commuting costs
* Travel -- business related travel
* Wages -- total wages paid to APNIC part-time employees
* Donations -- donations provide to APNIC
* Interest Income -- income derived from bank interest
Thus, at the end of FY '96 APNIC had a surplus of US
$284,086.03, however it was noted that this number is not
representative of APNIC's true budget situation as
- it reflects only the period from incorporation to the end of
the fiscal year
- it does not include all salaries and wages since some wages
were being provided as a donation to APNIC due to the
current lack of official standing of APNIC within Japan
(related to work visa issues)
- potential tax liabilities were not listed
Preliminary projections for the FY '97 budget were also
presented:
Revenue US$
New Membership 187,000
Renewal membership 347,500
Interest Income 3,000
Total Income 537,500
Disbursement
Bank Service Charges 3,200 0.6%
Books 1,000 0.2%
Communication Expense 7,000 1.4%
Hardware 30,000 6.1%
Software 5,000 1.0%
Domain Name Registration 2,803 0.6%
Entertainment 50 0.0%
Licenses and Permits 240 0.0%
Meeting Expense 3,000 0.6%
Office Furniture 3,000 0.6%
Office Supplies 3,000 0.6%
Payroll Expense 3,500 0.7%
Phone/Fax 5,600 1.1%
Postage and Delivery 1,800 0.4%
Printing and Reproductions 1,500 0.3%
Professional Development 3,100 0.6%
Accounting/Management 15,000 3.0%
Legal Fees 7,500 1.5%
Repairs 1,000 0.2%
Salaries 260,000 52.5%
Transportation 9,800 2.0%
Travel 42,890 8.7%
Wages 35,455 7.2%
Miscellaneous/Reserve 50,000 10.1%
Total Expense 495,438 100.0%
Net Surplus 42,062
10:50 - 11:00 "State of APNIC"
APNIC now has 3 full time staff and 2 part time, up from the FY
'96 P&L reflected 1 full time and 3 part time staff. During
1996, the APNIC Secretariat headquarters moved from the United
Nations University to the Tokyo Telecom Center (office space
provided by the WIDE project at no charge). APNIC currently
maintains its server facilities off-site at the KDD Otemachi
Building, the location of the Network Service Provider
Internet Exchange Point #2 -- the primary Internet exchange
for ISP in Japan. At the NSPIXP-2, APNIC maintains two
service machines and a router with connectivity to the APNIC
Secretariat provided by a 128 Kbps link offered at no cost by
the WIDE Project.
Primary services offered by the APNIC Secretariat continue to
be Internet address allocation, autonomous number assignment,
and in-addr.arpa delegation. In addition, APNIC underwrote
the APRICOT '97 conference held immediately prior to the APNIC
meeting in Hong Kong.
Challenges facing APNIC in 1997 include
- critical staffing limitations: APNIC is currently
understaffed with all staff members working significantly
more that 40 hours per week. Difficulties in hiring
additional staff due to APNIC's requirements (networking
knowledge and English fluency) and the traditional Japanese
employment system.
- tax liabilities with the possibility that APNIC will be
subject to 51.7% tax on net income in Japan. The
Secretariat is now expending significant resources to
investigate this situation.
- migration of all services to the APNIC Secretariat as was
approved at the APNIC meeting in Montreal. Staffing
limitations have delayed this migration.
- further stabilization and simplification of APNIC's
operational environment, in particular resolving the current
lack of official standing in Japan
- work towards obtaining a Executive Council mandated six
month operational reserve in funds to cushion APNIC from the
variations in income and expenses
Discussion ensued about the APNIC tax situation. It was
pointed out that JPNIC was pursuing tax exempt status within
the Japanese government and that the function of address
allocation would be judged as tax exempt for organizations
which had obtained tax exempt status. However, a lack of
information regarding the ability of APNIC to make use of such
situation as well as whether other cost of doing business
considerations resulted in an action being placed upon the
APNIC Secretariat to prepare a report on the cost of doing
business in various locations. It was agreed that this report
should be submitted to the APNIC Executive Council by March 31
for a final decision on the location of the APNIC Secretariat.
11:30 - 12:00 Confederation Category Discussions
The proposal to modify the fees associated with confederations
was presented (see APNIC-051). To date, confederations are
treated identically to other members, however it was noted
that this treatment could result in severe difficulties for
APNIC's funding situation. Specifically, in a worst case
scenario, if a confederation was formed, claiming to be a
small member, then all APNIC members could then join that
confederation resulting in APNIC's income being reduced to US
$2,500 per year. More importantly, since a confederation does
result in a varying amount of work for the Secretariat, the
flat fee for confederations does not scale with the amount of
work imposed.
The proposal documented in APNIC-051 would add a US $500 per
confederation member fee to insure the cost of supporting a
confederation would scale with the number of confederation
members. After significant discussion, it was resolved that
the per member fee of US $500 would be insufficient to support
confederation members. A counter proposal was put forward of
US $2000 per member, with a grandfathering clause to allow
existing confederations to pay US $500 per member. After
additional discussion, it was decided to defer a decision on
this subject and to request additional proposals via the
funding-wg mailing list. The final decision would be made via
electronic voting prior to the next APNIC meeting.
1:30 - 2:00 Non-member Fee Schedule Discussions and Voting
At the Montreal APNIC meeting, the membership voted to create
a non-member fee schedule which would enable non-members to
obtain APNIC allocation and registration services. In
addition, the Secretariat was directed to prepare a fee
schedule for the next APNIC meeting. The following fee
schedule was proposed:
Internet Address Allocation One Time Fee: US $1.00/address+
Internet Address Regisration Yearly Fee: US $0.10/address
AS Number Assignment One Time Fee: US $500.00/ASN
AS Number Regisration Yearly Fee: US $50.00/ASN
in-addr.arpa Delegation One Time Fee: US $50.00/delegation
in-addr.arpa Maintainence Yearly Fee: US $0.00/delegation*
(+) minimum fee: US $8192.00 however request must still be justified
(*) un-maintained delegations would be removed
The vote was taken with the following results:
Implement the proposed non-member fee schedule:
Yes 43
No 8
Thus, the proposal was accepted. Implementation of the
non-member fee schedule would take place prior to the next
APNIC meeting.
2:00 - 2:20 Modifications to Allocation Procedures
APNIC Internet address allocation procedure is to allocate an
initial /22 to service providers unless they can provide
sufficient justification for the need of additional space. It
was noted that this policy has resulted in significant
(arguably unnecessary) discussion between the requestor and
APNIC.
It was proposed that APNIC modify its allocation policy to
more closely match the RIPE-NCC allocation policy. More
explicitly, when an organization requests an initial block
of address space, APNIC will allocate an initial /19 however
assignments within that /19 to the requestor's customers will
be constrained by an "assignment window". The assignment
window is an indication of the amount of address space the
member can assign to customers without obtaining a second
opinion from APNIC. Initially, allocations to members without
existing address space will have an assignment window of zero,
that is, all assignments to customers must be made with the
approval of APNIC. As the requestor gains more experience
with assignment policies and requirements, the assignment
window will be opened so the requestor can assign more and
more space to its customers autonomously.
Organizations with an existing history of assignments with
APNIC will be given an assignment window corresponding with
their last allocation.
It was pointed out that this scheme can result in additional
load on APNIC hostmaster staff as new members will require
significantly more supervision. However, it was also noted
that such supervision can result in less questions and
mistakes with later requests.
A vote was taken with the following results:
Yes 65 *
No 2
As a result, the APNIC Secretariat was directed to modify
allocation procedures to the assignment window approach as
soon as feasible.
2:20 - 2:40 APNIC Activities Plan Discussions
It was proposed that the APNIC Secretariat take up the
following additional functions and services in addition to
its primary functions in FY '97:
- web access to APNIC mailing lists and mailing list archives
- transitioning the APNIC web page from the current pages
maintained by KRNIC to pages hosted at the Secretariat
- transitioning the in-addr.arpa delegation service currently
operated by AUNIC to the Secretariat
- notify APNIC members of more specific announcements by
monitoring the global routing tables
- prepare APNIC to accept and use public key signatures for
all official communication with APNIC
A vote was taken on the Activies plan with the following
results:
Yes 49 *
No 4
As a result, APNIC will implement the described activities
plan during fiscal year 1997.
2:40 - 2:45 Request From Modification Discussions
It was noted that APNIC forms will be expiring prior to the
next APNIC meeting and the APNIC application forms will be
modified. The membership was encourage to provide suggestions
and comments by subscribing and partipating in a new mailing
list forms-wg@apnic.net (subscribe by sending a message body
of "subscribe" to forms-wg-request@apnic.net).
3:00 - 3:30 Asia Internet Plaza
A request for support was proposed for the "Asia Internet
Plaza", an information clearinghouse regarding Internet and
cultural activities in the Asia and Pacific Rim regions.
After some discussion, the general consensus was that while
the Asia Internet Plaza is indeed a worthwhile project, there
would be a risk that similar functionality and services could
be provided as a commercial venture by APNIC members, thus
APNIC support could result in APNIC competing with its
membership. As such, the consensus of the APNIC membership
was to encourage members to participate in the Asia Internet
Plaza but to decline direct support.
3:30 - 3:45 Member update: Thailand
The Internet situation in Thailand was described and it was
noted that in 1996, there were 2 Internet service providers,
in 1997 there were 17 and it is expected there will be 40
ISPs in Thailand by the beginning of 1998. In terms of users,
it is projected that the user base will increase from 150,000
to 1,000,000 by the end of 1997. In addition, it is possible
that a national NIC for Thailand will be established within
the year.
3:45 - 4:00 Member update: JPNIC by Dr. Naomasa Maruyama
JPNIC's status was discussed, describing its estaablishment in
April 1993 to provide .JP domain name delegations and Internet
address assignments. Initially, there were 20 members, but
this number grew rapidly. Organizationally, JPNIC consists of
a general assembly overseen by a board which is administered
by a steering committee. The Secretariat currently employs
9 individuals and had a budget of US $4.7 million for fiscal
year 1996. Of that income, 58% came from membership fees and
the other 42% came from assignment charges. There was a
presentation of the .JP domain structure which has a
functional component (.co, .ad., .ac, etc) and a geographic
component (.tokyo, .hiroshima, etc.) Some of the current
assignment policies were described, including the use of
first-come, first-served and the requirements of one domain
name per organization with uniqueness required up to the third
level and the non-transferability of domain names.
Recent changes to JPNIC policies reflected the creation of a
new function 2nd level domain (.ne), removing the requirement
for 3rd level uniqueness, revising address allocation
procedures to reflect RFC 2050 requirements, discussions
regarding how trademarks would be handled, and incorporation
of JPNIC as a public welfare non-profit organization under
four Japanese ministries.
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Appendix A - Attendees of the APNIC annual general meeting in Hong Kong
Jan. 31 1997 (reflecting those who signed the signup sheet)
Achmad Birowo birowo@pacific.net.sg Pacific Internet
Akira Kato kato@nezu.wide.ad.jp WIDE Project
Bundit Wongwatanasin bundit@ksc.net.th KSC Commercial Internet
Chalee Srdtiprryo chalee@samart.co.th Samart Thailand
Chanki Park ckp@nca.or.kr KRNIC
Che Hoo Cheng chehoocheng@cuhk.hk The Chinese Univ of HK
Chen Xing Xiang cxx@siit.infnet.co.cn SIIT Co.Inc.
Daniel Karrenberg dfk@ripe.net RIPE NCC
David Leong bdl@umac.mo Univ. of Macau
Derek Tay dt@cyberway.com.sg Cyberway Pte Ltd.
Du Cai Kang ducaikan@uninet.co.cn Uninet
Ellis Cheng ellis@hk.linkage.net Linkage Online Ltd.
Garin Ganis gganis@pacific.net.id PI
Geoff Huston gih@telstra.net Telstra
Glenn Sipin gls@dost.gov.ph DOST
Gopi Garge gopi@ece.iisc.ernet.in ERNET/INNIC
Grace Ng grace@ns.mimos.my MIMOS
Heangsin Jang shj@garam.kreonet.re.kr SERI
Ho Hee Juan heejuan@cyberway.com.sg Cyberway Pte Ltd.
Hock-Koon Lim lim@pacific.net.sg Pacific Internet
Horacio T Cadiz hcadiz@ph.net Philippine Network Foundation
Hyoungwoo Park hwpark@garam.kreonet.re.kr SERI
Ichiro Mizukoshi ichiro@tokyonet.ad.jp JPNIC/Tokyo Internet
Indra K Hartono indra.kh@ub.net.id PT Uninet Bhaktinusa
Izumi Aizu izumi@glocom.ac.jp AIRI/GLOCOM
Jang Sang Gyu sgjang@bora.dacom.co.kr DACOM
Jin Ho Hur jhhur@nuri.net Inet, Inc.
John Halker j.houlker@waikato.ac.nz NZNIC
John S. Quarterman jsq@mlds.org MIDS
Jun Suzuki j-suzuki@tokyonet.ad.jp Tokyo Internet
Kanchana Kanchanasut kk@cs.ait.ac.th THNIC
Kanokwan Wongwatanasin kanokwan@ksc.net.th KSC Thailand
Kuo Wu c00pawu00@nchc.gov.tw TWNIC
Kwan-Ho Song khsong@nca.or.kr Natl Computerization Agency
Lee Hee Pok wind@bora.dacom.co.kr DACOM
M K Fung mkfung@artogram.com EastWorld Networks
Ma Yan mayan@bupt.edu.cn CERNET
Mark Summer mark@samart.co.th Samart Thailand
Mark Treacy mark@aone.net.au Access One
Miguel A.L. Paraz map@ipil.net IPhil Communications
Ming Chung cm@msi.hinet.net CHT-D Chunghwa Telecom
Minoru Takada apopen@ibm.net IBM Asia Pacific
Mirjam Kuehne mir@ripe.net RIPE NCC
Morragot Kvlatumyotin morragot@inet.co.th Internet Thailand
Naomasa Maruyama maruyama@nic.ad.jp JPNIC
Neil van Wouw neil@gol.com Global OnLine Japan
P.D. Waghey waghe@casanov.attmail.com Computerland
P.M. Winarno winarno@ue.net.id Uni Internet
Pang Wai Cheung wai@huge.net.hk Huge Net
Paul S Carlson pcarlson@kuentos.guam.net Kuentos Commucnications
Perg Kwon Tan pk@cyberway.com.sg Cyberway Pte Ltd.
Shigeki Goto goto@goto.info.waseda.ac.jp JPNIC/Waseda U
Siripong Treetasanatavorn phong@mozart.inet.co.th Internet Thailand
Srisakdi Charmonman charm@ksc.net.th KSC Thailand
Stacy Chua stacyc@pacific.net.sg Pacific Internet
Sugiharto Darmakusuma sugi@cbn.net.id Cyberindo Aditama
Sun Young Han syhan@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr Kon-Kuk Univ.
Takashi Togawa togawa@iad.hqs.ntt.jp NTT
Tan Tin Wee tinwee@irdu.nus.sg National Univ. of Singapore
Toru Takahashi toru@tokyonet.ad.jp IAJ
Toru Toyama kinsan@abone.net AIH
Toshio Higashikata t.higashikata@idc.co.jp IDC
Wallace H.A. Koh wallace@brunet.bn Jabatan Telecom
Wally Lee wally@irdu.nus.sg National Univ. of Singapore
Will Foster wfoster@cix.org CIX
William Wong wwong@hkt.net Hong Kong Telecom
Y.L. Shrestha yogesh@casanov.attmail.com ComputerLand
Yoshihiro Obata yo-obata@kdd.co.jp KDD Hong Kong
Yoshihisa Kawamura kawamura@jrd.dec.com DEC